Episode 52: Going Against the Grain with Our Goals

Summary

It is easy to get caught up in the idea go success vs failure as a black and white construct in terms of goal achievement. When reality strikes…sometimes priorities have to shift. We have both internal and external work to be done in life and sometimes life demands we swing the pendulum in one direction over the other vs striving to always do both. it can be very scary to take our hands off the wheel of the exterior goals in favor of the interior work…and visa versa. It is a necessary imbalance at times.

Listen for these truth bombs and wisdom nuggets:

  • Sometimes it’s simply about recalibration of our purpose and our souls work

  • Why sometimes everything needs to fall away and feel like its breaking down in order to breakthrough

  • When doing less better is actually ..more

  • How the beauty of ‘blankness’ can bring about higher vibrational frequency and be more aligned

  • Seeing the breakdown and beauty vs burden

  • The stories we tell based on the external world

  • Why we must slow down to speed up

  • It isn’t alway about letting a goal go, but rather re-defining it

  • Why being brave does not mean without having fear

  • Being ‘The Archer’ in your own life and how the ‘tension’ serves us

  • The point at which we want to turn back is when we are the closest to lift off

  • Why we must attach our well being to our bottom line

  • How we can have a successful business AND take great care of ourselves

  • Going deep on the internal landscape lets us go deep in our business.

  • Don’t miss the valuable ‘Questions worth asking ourselves’ near the end to explore with curiosity your own edges

  • Obstacles as opportunities for growth

  • The danger in too much tension and not knowing how to let go

Episode 51: The Negative Side of Positive Thinking

Episode Summary

You don’t want to miss this one! Join us for this passionate and spirited discussion about the perils of positive thinking. What do you do when things are hard? As coaches in our profession, it can often be about ‘looking at the bright side’ and ‘the power of positive thinking’. Today we talk about the bypassing of negative emotions that goes on in the world and a case against positive thinking. Bad thoughts get a bad rap…but is it their fault? This might be our most interesting and stimulating conversation to date.

Highlights from this hot episode include:

  • Why we must experience hard emotions and give them the due

  • Bad thoughts do not always act as a magnet to bring more stuff

  • Where the positive thinking paradigm got its roots

  • Where is the middle between letting the tough thoughts rule and bypassing and ignoring them

  • Collapsing and taking up residence into dark and difficult emotions

  • Repressing hard emotions

  • When to give yourself permission to allow the difficult emotion to be your experience

  • Why ‘accurate’ thoughts are a balanced alternative to what gets labeled as ‘negative’ or ‘positive’

  • The value of being present in the moments of now and how they give us balance and perspective and fuel ‘accurate’ thoughts

  • Why being more present allows us to be available to what needs to be

  • How fear prevents us from feeling the feels

  • Why being present with the pain of others forces us to tap into our own pain and how hard that can be

  • We have 100% survival rate!

  • How we know when we are having accurate thinking

  • Superficiality doesn’t keep us safe…we are meant to experience the full range of emotions

  • All emotions have equal importance

  • The understanding that life is terrible and life is beautiful

  • We can learn how to ride the waves in a way that we aren’t afraid of failures or the dark times

  • How we are all built for this terrible beautiful life

  • Being able to have acceptance for terrible things and not having to love them

Episode 50: Boundaries…Where to Draw the Line

Episode Summary

Join us this week while we discuss the balance of boundaries and finding that goldilocks-like sweet spot between too many vs not enough. We will break down what boundaries can look like and offer examples of extremes of too many or too little and how they impact our daily lives. As with all episodes our goal is perspective not prescriptive.

Highlights from this episode include:

  • The perils of impenetrable boundaries

  • The overwhelm that comes with no boundaries

  • Being the ‘Yes’ person

  • Keeping a wide-open heart with a big fence

  • The value of gatekeepers

  • Our resources and how to best allocate them

  • Why context can be important in boundaries

  • How to get compliance and respect for your boundaries

  • How co-creating and stating agreements we can create success in boundaries

  • Why we have to have clarity on where we are or are not be served by boundaries

  • Strategies to identify where we need more or less

  • When self-awareness is key

  • How modeling boundaries gives others permission to do the same

Episode 49: Expectations vs Agreements (Part 2 to Difficult Conversations Episode)

Episode Summary

Welcome to a continuation of last week’s episode where we take difficult conversations further by exploring the difference between ‘Agreements’ and ‘Expectations’. We dive into how they impact relationships, communication, and our experience within the world around us. They are often the source of difficult conversations and a clear understanding of their nature. Notice how they allow us to navigate talks with more clarity and create stronger outcomes.

Highlights from this episode include:

  • The difference between agreements and expectations

  • How one makes us feel over the other

  • Taking the ‘personal’ out of it

  • Clean objective ‘hygiene’

  • Avoiding setting people up for disappointment

  • How this partners with compromise vs collaboration

  • Why co-creation is in order

  • How to know when an expectation is being placed on you

  • How we are wired for fear

  • Flipping the fear

  • Defining the fear…and ‘fear setting’ vs goal setting

  • Tim Ferriss ‘Defining Your Fears’ Ted Talk (recommended listening)

  • Bypassing the emotions instead of acknowledging  them and how it steals our freedom

  • The value of sharing our disappointments

  • Giving voice to inner conversations

  • Open dialogue leading to deeper connections

  • How the culture can split our hearts from our mind

  • The perils of compromising our truth for the good opinions of others

Episode 48: Difficult Conversations…The Whats, Whys, Hows, and Whos

Episode Summary

Having uncomfortable and difficult conversations is …well….difficult and uncomfortable. Sometimes these conversations find us. Sometimes we find them. We have all had to engage in them either as the instigator or the receiver. In today's episode, we discuss what comes up during these experiences and how we can grow through them and create outcomes that serve all parties. How can we be both understood and understanding? This is part 1 of 2. Part 2 will drop next week!

Highlights in the episode:

  • Why arguing the opposing point of view is so valuable

  • Seeking to understand before being understood

  • The value of perspectives outside our own

  • Measuring and managing the emotional response

  • Being aware of our own triggers

  • How high self-awareness can be a weakness and a strength

  • How ignoring our true feeling leads to anger

  • What happens when we avoid difficult conversations

  • Why staying in the present moment helps keep things grounded and productive

  • Prepare for the conventions….but don’t over-prepare

  • Don’t re-live the conversation.  Live it once.

  • How growth happens ‘outside’ the moment

  • The difference between ‘re-living’ a conversation and ‘reflecting’ on it

  • Watching out for the judgments and shame spiraling

  • The difference between trying to prepare for and influence

  • Exploring our fear of being misunderstood

  • Understanding that we all live in separate realities

  • Agreements vs Expectations

Episode 47: The Seats On Your Bus

Episode Summary

You are the sum of the people you spend the most time with. They are often a reflection of who you are and how big you get to live. Join us in conversation as we recount how people have changed our lives over time and what we have learned in different seasons of life and what roles our tribes play.

Highlights in the episode:

  • Why arguing the opposing point of view is so valuable

  • Seeking to understand before being understood

  • The value of perspectives outside our own

  • Measuring and managing the emotional response

  • Being aware of our own triggers

  • How high self-awareness can be a weakness and a strength

  • How ignoring our true feeling leads to anger

  • What happens when we avoid difficult conversations

  • Why staying in the present moment helps keep things grounded and productive

  • Prepare for the conventions….but don’t over-prepare

  • Don’t re-live the conversation.  Live it once.

  • How growth happens ‘outside’ the moment

  • The difference between ‘re-living’ a conversation and ‘reflecting’ on it

  • Watching out for the judgments and shame spiraling

  • The difference between trying to prepare for and influence

  • Exploring our fear of being misunderstood

  • Understanding that we all live in separate realities

  • Agreements vs Expectations

Episode 46: The Bad Reputation of Negative Emotions

Episode Summary

Emotions are here to stay and they get many labels both good and bad. Our culture often dictates what is acceptable in terms of how we express them and when we express them. In this episode, we unpack what this culture calls ‘negative emotions’ and how they have tremendous power to serve us and heal us just as much if not more than what gets labeled as ‘positive’ emotions. Join us while we explore the giving of permission to feel all of our emotions and honor what each has to offer without judgment.

Highlights from this episode include:

  • Negative emotions being banned by our culture as something that needs to be bypassed

  • The wisdom of our emotions and what they have to offer us

  • What emotions really are

  • The damage that occurs when we stuff emotions

  • The difference between parking emotions and stuffing emotions

  • How despair and hopelessness are not dangerous places

  • Why the story we have around our emotions is more important than the emotions themselves

  • What your emotions really want from you

  • Why the ‘wounded healer’ makes the best healer

  • Our hyper-individualistic culture and how it's killing us

  • What we can communally do as a society to create safe space for the expression of ALL emotions

  • BIG emotions and how they unnerve us whether they are our own or those of others

  • Why nothing more than bearing witness is the greatest gift we can offer during difficult emotions of others

Episode 45: Control Enthusiasts and Perfectionists….Say I

Episode Summary

Have you been holding on too tightly?  The more tightly we try to control things the more stressed and anxious we become.  When we can loosen our grip we can find more joy and ease and wellbeing. Joins us while we find a sense of direction and connection in all the unlikely places of perfectionism and comparison and expectations in a world that sometimes causes us to ‘white knuckle’ our way through the day.

Episode Notes

In this episode you will find:

-The roles that faith, allowing, and trusting play in overcoming perfectionism and control

-How the expectations of the outer world influence our need for control

-The illusion of control

-Where within ourselves the answers really are

-What it takes in order to let go

-What causes us to need control

-Why you can’t ‘think’ your way through every problem

-Why what you feel is more important than what you think

-Understanding that we are not our thoughts

-Why the more we look to our brain the  more overwhelmed and stressed we become and the more we feel compelled to control

-What happens when we trust the unfolding

-The role that intuition plays in it all and how everyone has access to it

-Why we can be the example or the warning and how the warnings are not a bad thing

Episode 44: Comparison Gremlins And Keeping Up With The Jones’

Episode Summary

If you are on someone else’s expected journey for you, you are not on YOUR path. In this episode, we explore how your path is YOUR path and you are exactly where you need to be. Sometimes our paths overlap or travel alongside those of others. It’s time to take back our own authenticity to walk on our own path… in our own time; without comparison or judgment.

Episode Notes

Listen for these gems of wisdom and guidance:

-The pain of comparison

-The role social media plays

-Living as a human doing vs human being

-The richness of your interior landscape and why interior work is paramount

-How we find ourselves looking for external validation of our worth

-Giving yourself permission to explore the messiness of emotions

-The roles gender plays in comparison

-The toxic culture’s role in our ability to ‘do the work’

-What we need in order to do the work

-What it takes to be vulnerable with our messy human-ness

-The illusion of perfection and what it is doing to people

-What happens when we simply bear witness, without judgment, to the struggles of others….and our own

-Why ‘being a fraud’ is actually authenticity.

Episode 43: Stealing Normal

Episode Summary

There are so many things going on in the world that are ’stealing normal’. It may be more important now than ever to ask ourselves: What is normal anyway? What do we want to keep? What needs to go? How can I cultivate an experience that most represents the life I want to live? In this episode, we open the door to these questions and the idea of ‘micro’normals and how there are gifts in the chaos and uncertainty if only we are willing to explore the edges.

Episode Notes

Listen for these gold nuggets:

-The gifts of chaos

-Why interruptions are the way of life and change is the only universal constant

-How we can ‘begin again’ when we lose track of our equilibrium

-Why adapting is important and how to re-establish our own normal

-Internal vs eternal vehicles and how they impact our ability to maintain normal

-The difference between intention and attention and why they are both important and necessary

-Evolving normals

-Waking up to what you no longer want to tolerate….’The Great Resignation’

-‘Micro normals’ vs  ‘macro normals’ and why they are so important

-How our system is always seeking equilibrium and simply needs a little TLC from us

-Shame spiraling and beating ourselves up for taking downtime and a reframe to stop the story

-Knowing when you are intentionally decompressing vs escaping with Netflix

-Stepping out of judgment of self and others

-Why as we look to find our normal….we must be mindful of ‘helping’ others

-Being purposeful in cultivating the life we most want to live

-Why being ‘wobbly’ is actually an indication that positive change is occurring

Episode 42: Balance, Is it Really What We are All Looking For?

Episode Summary

In this jam-packed episode, we explore our edges and the concept of ‘balance’. What it is, what it is not, and permission to carve your own path. Who says you can’t have your cake and eat it too? We are here to help you find your new ‘normal’ and create harmony between being a human ‘doing’ and a human ‘being’.

Episode Notes

Tune in to hear more about:

-We will ALL have imbalance in our lives

-We often learn through imbalance or contrast

-Balance is not what we think it is…listen for how we re-define it

-How priorities are the crux of balance

-Why failures are our greatest gifts and teachers

-Balance today can look very different today from Balance tomorrow

-Understanding what -‘Doing your best’ REALLY means

-Why time off is actually the key to doing more and having more

-Recognizing the ever-changing landscape of life and cultivating flexibility

-Exploring how slowing down leads to speeding up

-Guts and Glory in a fast-paced world…how naps are the key

-Where the wisdom exists…in the pause

-Looking at your expectations and the permission to change them

-How to master your productivity

-Hello culture shift

-Finding YOUR ’normal’… and ultimately finding your fulfillment

-Why sometimes you need to shift your fulcrum point over striving for equal ‘balance’

Episode 41: Limbo, Impermanence, and Uncertainty... Oh my! (Swearing alert)

ANNOUNCEMENT

I’m back from my podcast sabbatical and I’m excited to introduce you to my new co-host! Take listen as I explain what Juliet is up to and introduce Jenn.

This past year has certainly touched all our lives in various ways with respect to limbo, impermanence and uncertainty.. While hard on the human brain and the nervous system, these things can also play a necessary transitional experience to get all the juice out of life. Join us in this episode where we unpack what it is to experience these states: the trials, the tribulations, and some real strategies for harnessing the power and the lessons in them all.

Episode Notes

Some highlights worth listening for:

-perfectionism and the role it plays in making limbo harder

-Are you holding on too tightly to the wrong things for stability during these times?

-How to let go of the white knuckling and see it as a gift and use its ‘intelligence’

-Channeling your inner ‘Dorothy’ and following the yellow brick road…

-Where we tend to skip steps and ‘escape’ from solving issues

-Feeling the feels and why it is key

-Why Limbo et al is a part of life and not the interruption we perceive it to be

-The paradoxes of rigidity…the blessing and the curse

-How to cultivate flexibility and resilience

-Getting into the box and how it actually helps us break free

-Looking for the lessons to move forward faster

Episode 40: Getting Real Around Emotions

ANNOUNCEMENT

Riffing on Realness™ is taking a sabbatical until September 1st. Juliet is going on to other things and I will introduce my new co-host, Jennifer Flynn, at that time. I thank Juliet for some wonderful riffing! What a gem she is and I wish her all the best in her new endeavors.

In this episode Carla and Juliet riff on getting real around emotions. What they’ve noticed about emotions while both going through some deep water. They get curious how we can seem to hold contradictory emotions within the same day or even hour.

Here’s what we explored:

  • Feeling all kinds of emotions at the same time and how that doesn’t need to be a problem

  • We can feel curious and terrified, happy and sad

  • simply feeling emotions rather than analyzing and judging them, enables them to flow more freely

  • when we get stuck, is when we get overly attached to the meaning we’re making of how we’re feeling

  • we have an incredible capacity to simply feel our emotions

  • we get in trouble when we split off from that and go into analysis

  • there’s intelligence in our emotions, not meaning but intelligence

  • in deep grief there is love

  • in every emotion, at root, there is love

  • as we get more of a sense of our deeper essence, we get kinder towards our experience

  • what can stop us wanting to feel, is fearing losing control

  • more and more places where we are trying to hold on become visible

  • control dropping away is something Juliet fears and longs for all at the same time

  • just out of sight, is a huge expanse of love

  • control is all about fear and trying to keep the separate self, safe

  • control gives us an illusion of safety but actually holds us prisoner

  • hyper-analysis and judgment of our experience/how we feel can cause a whole lot of suffering

  • and yet, we can be kind there too

  • we’re noticing we can show up, feeling vulnerable and just see what happens, there’s nothing on it

  • there’s a gentleness available as we understand the nature of our experience deeper and deeper

  • when we don’t know, it can be a really fertile space if we can just rest there and not be freaked out by it

  • when we find ourselves in a situation when we can see you have no control it can be a reckoning, a kind of fork in the road. Can we surrender?

  • it causes a lot of stain on our system to try and hold on to control

  • there’s a lot of freedom in being able to have emotions and let them move through you freely

  • the nature of the human experience is ebb and flow: control and surrender; being in your heart or your head; fear and love

  • the storm always runs out of rain, even when we feel off centre, we can know we’ll come back

  • the awareness of something deeper begins to come more and more into the foreground

  • our emotions are simply inviting us to get present, to come into the present moment and experience them


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Episode 39: Helping Others and Why It's Tricky

In this episode, we explore what's going on when we want to help others or when others want to help us. Sometimes, well-intentioned advice can feel irritating or disempowering. In turn, we may find ourselves trying to fix other people's problems. When we look deeper at what's going on, do we need others to be okay so we can feel okay?

Here’s what we explored:

  • when we listen for our own wisdom around problems, we get helpful fresh ideas that may include asking someone for help

  • if we identify help we need and then ask, that feels different from having others telling us what to do when we haven't asked

  • ask how you can help. Don't make assumptions about what someone wants and needs

  • we want our own capacity for returning to well-being to be recognized when people offer help

  • we also assume people can't handle feeling distress

  • we can become frightened by others' distress

  • often, without awareness, the reason we want others to feel better is that we need them to feel better so we can feel better

  • when we catch sight of this, we realize it is all about us!

  • do we really see, we are okay at a deeper essential level (and so is everyone else)?

  • Carla talks about when she had her breakdown-breakthrough, how her wisdom told her to let herself completely unravel, and then when everything was stripped back she felt her deeper essence

  • what people crave is a grounded presence

  • when our sense of ourselves gets interrupted, we may attempt to patch ourselves up and try to carry on as before

  • there is a terror of falling apart

  • being present with ourselves is an extraordinary gift

  • when we speak to someone as if they are whole, not broken, without judgment, we invite the other to find that place in themselves

  • 'Why' questions don't usually give a satisfying answer - 'why am I feeling this way?'

  • as we deeply realize we are more than our feelings, we get to take how we feel less seriously

  • there is an intelligence in our inner experience (all of it), you begin to get eyes for the wisdom of the moment - it's alive

  • the difference between feeling our emotions and collapsing into our emotions

  • if we don't reflect on why we want to help and ask others what help they want (if they know), then we're not really being helpful

  • often we grab hold of the story because it's a diversion, something to do.

  • it looks like it's empathetic but it moves the focus away from the present

  • the point of lightening up is, not only do we feel better, we are more resourced to hear and act on our wisdom

  • often, our head is disconnected from our hearts

  • as we get more sense of a deeper dimension we get kinder towards our psychological experience

  • we don't take how we feel so personally

  • when are low, we are usually living in the past and when we are feeling anxious often we are living in the future

  • coming back into the present can help us find equilibrium

  • as we wake up to the wild ways our dramatic brains go on, we get to take it less seriously

  • if you catch yourself trying to fix others, it's a good place to sit and reflect on how much you can get present with your own distress

  • we're human, we fall into our old tracks of thought but as we catch sight more and more of what's going on, there's a softening

  • we begin to see our ridiculousness with love and humor rather than judgment

  • being okay with whatever our experience is means we get to be okay with others, whatever experience they are having

  • the space of not knowing is fertile ground and we begin to get curious rather than fearful when we don't know

  • come alongside others in support but without making demands

  • don't underestimate the power of warmth and connection and being fully present with someone in distress

Quotes and References

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Episode 38: Decluttering Inside and Out

In this episode, full of laughter, we explore decluttering, not just our physical space but our inner emotional and psychological spaces. We get curious about what's going on when our minds or spaces are full of stuff we don't really need or want. How might we recognize what's going on and what helps us let go of the clutter?

Here’s what we explored:

  • notice what habitually clutters your headspace, eg worry

  • notice what else you gather or hoard in your life or business, eg courses

  • holding on to clutter in the mind or in our space often comes from a sense of scarcity

  • we often hold on to things because we have a sense they may be needed one day

  • is the clutter a deluded way we try to keep ourselves safe?

  • putting good ideas out for recycling

  • making a parking space for good ideas

  • overwhelm and stress often makes clear decision making difficult, our brains get very dramatic

  • we have periods of indecision and uncertainty and then decisions do get made

  • there is an ebb and flow in our experience: clarity amid the clutter then back in the clutter

  • giving ourselves permission to go with that ebb and flow, get comfortable with it

  • often clarity comes on the flip side of things falling apart, of loss

  • releasing and surrendering to what is, often opens a beautiful space of clarity where there's nothing on our mind

  • finding laughter, softening towards the antics of our dramatic brains and our ridiculousness opens up space

  • seriousness is a red flag, catching it in ourselves often lightens the mood

  • ask yourself, 'if I was light-hearted in this situation, in what way would that be unhelpful?'

  • we experience the world not as it is, but via our perceptions

  • we don't need to change the stories, seeing our stories about ourselves, others and the world is often enough for them to start to lose their grip

  • you begin to get a space for something that isn't a better story but is beyond or before the stories

  • tools and techniques without understanding are just a distraction

  • with understanding, you need fewer and fewer tools and techniques

  • insight is what helps deepen understanding

  • when we are very results-focused, we are imagining what it would mean to achieve the results, but how can we know what the experience would actually be like?

  • notice how many inventive and creative ways we imagine will bring us relief, wellbeing, peace of mind, and security

  • once we identify ourselves with things outside ourselves eg money, relationships, physical health, material things, we suffer

  • as get less and less on our minds, life gets simpler and simpler

  • when we feel flat, paradoxically, our mind's are very busy (even if we are not aware)

  • in a busy mind, we tend to try to control everything

  • as you connect more and more with who you fundamentally are, more and more drops off your mind and our innate wisdom bubbles up more and more

  • often when we think there's a big problem with no solution, it is because our mind is ramped up and we've lost sight of our own wisdom and clarity

  • wisdom comes in all shapes and sizes

  • as you get eyes and ears for wisdom you see it in others and yourself more and more

  • when we try to fix ourselves and others it is disempowering and means we lose sight of wisdom

  • there is a beautiful freedom when the clutter and trying to control falls away

Quotes and References

  • Film: What we did on our holiday (2014), Rosamund Pike, Billy Connolly and David Tenant

  • Jamie Smart says you only have two problems: you have too much on your mind and you don't really know who you are.

  • The deeper you listen, the smarter people get

Thank you for listening, we'd love to hear your reflections and questions. 

Episode 37: Burnout

In this episode, we explore burnout. Carla shares how she experienced burnout towards the end of last year and how she consciously took a 'sacred pause'. In practice that looked like stepping back from blogging and social media posting and focusing solely on taking care of her clients and herself. Although she had some misgivings, she realized it is perfectly acceptable to take a sacred pause when one needs to. And she sees how her business, rather than suffer, has actually grown. Here’s what we explored:

  • it is easy to get seduced by the toxic culture of go, go, go and more, more, more

  • the pressure to present as happy and okay all the time is counter-productive

  • we are okay underneath but we do get to experience the full range of human emotion

  • suppressing or ignoring our experience can create more suffering

  • much distress could be averted if we could be okay with not being okay

  • if we can set aside our discomfort at feeling off, there is an opportunity to tune in to our deeper wisdom which is the best guide

  • we may not listen to our inner nudges because we don't like what it is nudging us to do

  • if we don't pay attention to our inner wisdom, it tends to knock louder

  • it's common that people who are running running running, often come down with a physical or mental episode that forces them to stop

  • Carla talks about a client who was exhausted and she told him he needed to take a sabbatical for a month

  • at first, he was horrified but being open and curious he decided to take the sabbatical

  • it changed his life. His business did not collapse and he got clarity about how he wanted to approach things on his return

  • we have this illusion that if we don't try to control everything, it will all fall apart

  • seeing through the illusion of control often happens through a natural disaster or illness

  • there's a freedom in seeing through the illusion

  • initially, it may be frightening but the relief when you see you don't have to control everything is immense

  • Carla speaks of the client who took the sabbatical showed an amazing level of leadership in that act

  • the modeling and permission it gives others when we step away to take care of ourselves

  • the client's team stepped up and it was incredibly empowering for them

  • when we see that catastrophizing is made of thought, we might find space to wonder what positive things could come out of eg taking a break, rather than focus only on negative possibilities

  • the body has incredible wisdom, signs of burnout such as sleep and appetite disturbance, mood swings, and difficulty concentrating are flashing amber warning lights

  • when we feel very stressed it looks like it is the circumstances and events and other people out there causing our state of mind

  • in a stressed state of mind, we see problems everywhere

  • when we aren't stressed we don't see so many problems

  • state of mind plays a huge part in how we meet our experience

  • when you're very depleted, calming the system down is much more helpful than trying to tackle the so-called problems because you're not in a fit state to be very effective

  • when we are willing to step away from the crazy-making, busy mind we are in, we begin to see through the illusion of our thinking

  • when we aren't caught up in our busy thinking, we can find more clarity and what we can do or need to do is clearer

  • taking on the pressure to keep up a mask of efficiency all the time robs us of the chance to tune into our deeper wisdom

  • there are many cultural messages subtly telling us we should be well turned out all the time, especially women

  • there are also cultural messages around being successful, especially for men

  • many successful entrepreneurs report losing the sense of fun and adventure they experienced at the beginning

  • are we drawn to drama as a substitute for feeling connection?

  • how much we have on our minds determines our experience

  • if we define our sense of self by our success, appearance, relationships, or money, then we will constantly be chasing those things or experiencing fear around losing them

  • when we live in our heads instead of in the present moment, we end up on a merry go round

  • the desire for connection is universal but we tend to look for it outside ourselves when it comes from within

  • the less connected we feel, sometimes the harder we run, living more and more in our heads

  • at any point, there is a possibility of checking in with that deeper self to see what is the next thing you want to do (or not do)

  • sometimes we don't want to hear our deeper wisdom because it doesn't line up with the stories we've spun about ourselves

  • even though we know we'd feel better if we listened to our wisdom, sometimes we don't want to feel better, we're committed to our self-righteousness or frustration

  • lack of connection leads to burnout as we chase dopamine hits from things that inevitably are ephemeral

  • whenever we find ourselves getting obsessive about something eg exercise, then it's a signal that we are looking in the wrong place for connection

  • once we realize we are not our business or our body or, fill in the blank, then we can find freedom

  • if we engage in things that appeal to us, with nothing on it, we find a flow and ease that is missing when we're striving to prop up our sense of self

  • toxic goals arise when we invest our well-being in achieving something out in the world: losing weight, making more money, and winning a championship. Thinking we'll be okay when we achieve those things.

  • you can see that you have invested your sense of self in accomplishing a goal, eg losing weight, when, on achieving the goal, the feeling of satisfaction is short-lived

  • insecurity is an inside job - there's nothing outside that will take care of that

  • seeing that insecurity is an illusion is what loosens its grip. No need to get rid of our insecurities, rather recognize they are passing states of mind. We don't need to take them so seriously

  • living life for the game of it

  • burn out is the mind/body warning system. It's your friend. It's pointing to something that needs attention

Quotes and References

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Episode 36: Emotions Showing Up in Disguise

In this episode, we explore how sometimes our reactivity, e.g. irritability, pettiness, and frustration can be disguising a deeper emotion. Carla tells the story of how grief about her mother showed up recently but she didn't recognize it at first because it's not usual for her to feel this and initially she felt petty, dramatic, and reactive. Can we get eyes for and accept what's showing up internally?

Here’s what we explored:

  • check out what stories you're running about the experience you're having

  • in the midst of reactivity, if we can see we are riled up, space can open up a little

  • get eyes for helpful nudges showing up when we're reactive e.g. the idea to run an errand, run a bath

  • irritability, anger, and pettiness can often be unrecognized fear or grief

  • righteous anger can be a powerful force for change

  • there is primitive brain, red hot, reactive anger which is often connected to past fear

  • discerning the difference is helpful

  • anger can be used to protect ourselves. Getting angry with someone makes it easier to say break up

  • can we set boundaries without the petty meanness?

  • getting underneath the initial flash of emotion to understand something deeper

  • do we have to make someone wrong in order to validate our needs and wants?

  • being riled up is all our own work (an inside job)

  • our defensiveness can cloud our judgment

  • when a client needed to take an employee to task over performance he felt angst and guilt which came out as irritation and anger

  • once he recognized what was going on, he could see more clearly that they needed to have a conversation about agreements

  • when we're caught in reactivity, it can be confusing for others as we often don't know what we want

  • how often do we honor agreements with ourselves?

  • how often do we not protect our peace of mind?

  • how often do we allow our stories to run away with us, and create suffering?

  • often what we throw out to others is a mirror of how we are treating ourselves

  • if we are giving ourselves a hard time, there's a good chance we'll give others a hard time

  • when someone shows up really reactive, could we wonder what might be up for them, particularly if it's not typical behavior?

  • if it occurs to us to 'sit on the bank of ourselves', drop our stories (as best we can), then something else can show up

  • if not, then leaving our thinking alone as best we can, helps things to move on through

  • when we're very reactive, we can innocently give that more oxygen and keep it going more and more

  • we don't have to be at 100% to show up or to live our lives; there's something so much greater than our small sense of self

  • when you've lost something in the pond and you go wading in and stirring up the waters trying to find it, the water gets really cloudy whereas if you 'sit on the bank', the water will settle, and then it gets easier to look for the lost item.

  • pay attention to the little nudges that might be telling you to do something, not on your to-do list but might be really helpful

  • the narratives we have about internal and external states, is often what causes suffering, not the event or feeling state itself

  • seeing the stories is often enough for them to lose their fascination

  • if you have trouble sleeping, notice it's the stories you create about not sleeping which cause much of the suffering, rather than the actual lack of sleep

  • learning to say, 'can I get back to you?', can give us time to land in more clarity, rather than responding from reactivity

  • 'I'm an ordinary person having a beautiful life' - a thought that came in for Juliet with so much peace and relaxation

  • when you notice your system is ramped up, step back if you can, and get curious about what's underneath

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Episode 35: Interruptions Happen | How to Flow Through Them

In this episode we explore interruptions. Carla's dog Pedro is poorly today and Carla has taken time out to attend to him. She's noticed how along with the distress comes irritation and getting snappy with others. She sees how comical it is that we get so easily upset by interruptions. Maybe we should accept the fact that interruptions happen and maybe we need a little more understanding and compassion with ourselves and others.

Here’s what we explored:

  • it's interesting to notice how we make up stories about interruptions

  • when we are quick to judge others and ourselves we often get reactive

  • our podcast gives us a chance to come on our recordings as we are, feeling all the feels

  • we hope to encourage our listeners to also give themselves a little grace

  • maybe we should plan for interruptions like we do when traveling to important meetings

  • interruptions always happen so maybe we should add buffer time for them, instead of being shocked they happen

  • we know we can't control the traffic so it's just logical to allow extra time

  • why not put lots of time around every task or appointment in your diary?

  • we're rewarded for ticking boxes on our to-do list and we can internalize that and prioritize quantity over quality

  • Carla talks of working with a client who hated interruptions and he started to realize he was just trying to do too much

  • he began to block his time differently

  • Carla hates being late and hates waiting for others

  • she made an adjustment to her coaching agreement to tell clients she would only wait for 5 minutes after the start of a scheduled call unless she hears from someone

  • an easy adjustment that makes it clear for her clients and reduces her suffering

  • punctuality is an interesting place to look at the separate realities operating

  • when people are late to meet us, we can make up stories about not being respected, not being valued when in fact chronic lateness is often created by totally unrelated issues

  • another client of Carla's takes care of customers in a company that has a no refund policy

  • clients do ask for refunds and it makes this client mad but with Carla's help he's begun to catch himself

  • once you consider someone else might be dealing with all kinds of life challenges eg sickness, a divorce, a work issue, we can begin to find compassion

  • from a place of understanding and compassion, we are more open to wisdom and inspiration

  • in the Buy Nothing group Juliet co-admins, she's noticed the wide range of communication styles and tries to foster a feeling of goodwill and understanding

  • when we get stuck in our version of things, our way is the right way, there isn't much possibility of meeting in the middle

  • the difference between niceness and kindness: niceness is making the other person feel good all the time whereas kindness is about respecting your own boundaries and being truthful

  • Carla noticed the comedy the other day: she was having a hard day and was snappy and irritable with her friend who got upset. Then she got more upset.

  • Juliet notices when she's very tired, her mind gets very busy, almost as if being tired is a threat to her safety. Her system goes looking for trouble, with the 'what's wrong?' goggles

  • she sees how illogical it is: being very tired and getting more vigilant

  • do we have to do that?

  • is there a space where we can drop that busyness, knowing it's not helpful?

  • when Pedro had his back surgery, he would growl at other dogs that approached (not something he usually does)

  • is there something appropriate in 'growling!'

  • is it helpful to let people know where you are?

  • many people in business feel they always have to be 'on it' which is toxic

  • why are we so afraid to share and be real and vulnerable?

  • attitudes to mental health are changing which is good news

  • the minute you actually express you're having a hard day, there's a release, especially if we're met with understanding

  • it's very helpful to see how state of mind plays out around complaints or interruptions

  • when the person we are with is in a low state of mind and we drop into a low state of mind too, we end up with a battleground

  • can we experiment with spinning a more positive story to account for people's behavior, giving people the benefit of doubt?

  • discerning where it is safe to share how we are doing

  • what about with ourselves? isn't that a great place to acknowledge if we are up against it and give ourselves a bit of grace

  • in a strung-out state of mind, everything is harder

  • when we don't extend that grace to ourselves and get really self-critical then we're going to get judgemental of others

  • we can get interrupted by events and our own emotions. They happen all day long

  • Carla shares how a wave of grief just washed in after a good day of work and how she was able to just let it roll through

  • when we try and tightly control our day, we're setting ourselves up for a fall

  • it may look like we have no alternative: "I have a huge to-do list"

  • but that internally generated pressure comes from what we think about our to-do list rather than the actual tasks

  • when we focus our attention on just what is in front of us, we take off layers and layers of additional thinking which makes it easier to move through activities

  • being very reactive to interruption, is it actually the interruption to our task or what we make of this interruption?

  • we are constantly running scenarios, like a soap opera script - such a dramatic brain

  • it's not inevitable you have to be in a busy headspace when you're at work tasks

  • we can wrongly assume working effectively has to come with a sense of stress and adrenaline

  • what would happen if we just gave ourselves entirely over to the interruption?

  • Carla gave an example of how she managed to pivot when she needed to take up an emergency vet appointment

  • having boundaries around when you can and can't be interrupted. Reflect on this and see what you need to do to make that so

Quotes and sources

  • 'Expectations are resentments under constructions', Anne Lamott

  • Steve Chandler on expectations versus agreements, Carla shares this with her clients

  • The Shallows: How the Internet Is Changing the Way We Think, Read and Remember
    by Nicholas Carr, Paul Michael Garcia, et al.

  • Your Brain at Work, Strategies for Overcoming Distraction, Regaining Focus, and Working Smarter All Day Long by David Rock

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Episode 34: The Importance of Recalibration

In this episode we explore re-calibration. What may be happening behind the scenes as you respond to resuming social activities after lockdown or at any time when you find yourself 'tired' by things that don't usually impact you that way. Juliet is particularly curious to explore re-calibration. Is it a time to pause and allow for the possibility, we may actually be adjusting to new perspectives, rather than assuming we are not 'up to speed'. We kicked off with a little love fest, appreciating each other and this podcast.

Here’s what we explored:

  • how fun it is to just riff and dive in

  • making space to wonder what's new and fresh rather than getting stuck in stale habits of mind

  • we can notice stale habits of mind that make us feel yuck but also we can be stuck in more 'positive' assumptions eg I'm going on holiday, yay!

  • can throwing out some structure, help with recalibration, or maybe bringing in more structure could help?

  • Juliet describes feeling really tired after a couple of weekends of travel and meeting up with people after lockdown restrictions were eased

  • she got curious about how exhausted she was and what was up with that?

  • she recognized she has got quieter inside over the last year and it would be easy to think she should speed up, get with the program, but is that the only view?

  • as the mind quietens we can get much more sensitive to stimulation of the mind in a way we wouldn't have noticed before

  • Carla wonders, is this similar for extroverts? Anecdotally, Juliet hears many, including extroverts, are finding 're-entry' a little bumpy.

  • when we re-engage with old situations, it's interesting to notice how old habits of thought can kick in, which have perhaps been mostly absent over the last year or so

  • Juliet explains how a busy mind is like an engine revving really hard while idling (so it's not going anywhere).

  • Previously, Juliet's idle speed was very high. She didn't know it was high. It just felt normal.

  • when you step on the gas, and your revs are already high, it's not actually that big a movement

  • when the engine is revving much less, even a moderate increase in revs can feel like a big deal

  • so it is with the mind: when the mind is generally quieter, even a little mental busyness can feel much more intense than it used to.

  • Carla chimes in, when you're revving the engine in neutral, it's not good for the engine.

  • to stop revving, you just have to take your foot off the gas: leave your busy thoughts alone (as best you can)

  • Carla notices these days, if she feels a little anxious, it feels awful. Whereas before she used to feel anxious most of the time but hardly noticed because it was just the way it was

  • taking a moment to sit on the bank of yourself, to pause, reflect, and allow our mind to come back into equilibrium

  • don't be so quick to judge your reactions as you pick up the threads of your lives

  • sometimes people wake up dramatically to how busy their minds are, in the midst of a crisis

  • for many others, there is a gradual, incremental quietening down of the body-mind system

  • it's helpful to look at this greater sensitivity to disturbance and clarify what might be going on.

  • you may not have noticed that you've been generally living in a quieter, nicer feeling (not all the time)

  • there can be intelligence in anxiety or tiredness eg, we are caught up in our stressful stories and I'm not aware, we need to take a rest

  • as the system settles down, these episodes can be little alarm clocks to wakes us up to being off centre

  • when it was all-consuming (as Carla and Juliet have experienced), there's no awareness of anything but being in the drama

  • it's not about ignoring feelings but acknowledging them and riding them out as best we can

  • as things quieten down, sometimes we might catch a glimpse of a particular habit of thought eg irritation or judgment has latched on to a situation

  • it's cool when we see this at play because then we realize, this is only one experience out of an infinite number of experiences

  • Juliet doesn't feel re-calibrating is being done by her but is happening under the surface

  • we have big and small moments of waking up to all sorts of things eg around race, consciousness, etc

  • our system has to catch up and settle into these new perspectives

  • we can get in the way of that re-calibration

  • true change doesn't generally happen through tools and techniques

  • true change comes from insight, an epiphany, or a shift in our understanding

  • we can't make insight happen but we can create the conditions for insight

  • Carla uses the metaphor of a butterfly for insight. If you flail your arms around, it is less likely the butterfly will land on you.

  • how can we make the conditions fertile for insight?

  • Carla sees getting caught in her own stories of success or failure are her biggest obstacles to peace of mind

  • for Carla, it comes down to helping her mind relax, take things off her mind eg catching herself in her stories, meditation, breathing techniques, being in nature to calm down her nervous system

  • we get ourselves totally embroiled in our stories which can be disturbing, terrifying, depressing

  • at one level Juliet sensed she was causing her own distress but didn't know how to stop, so she used that idea to further judge herself

  • what's true is when we are very distressed, thinking more and more about our distress doesn't get us anywhere

  • we, as human beings, are built for insight

  • every fresh idea you've ever had has just popped in your head. Where did they come from?

  • what helps Juliet is being in conversation with people who are speaking and listening from a quieter, deeper, and more peaceful space

  • when you start to really see things for yourself, things begin to recalibrate

  • one of the most helpful things Juliet kept hearing was: look at what is, instead of what isn't

  • notice how, in a low state, we focus on what's wrong with ourselves, others, our relationships, our work, our dinner

  • looking towards what's 'right' can be a helpful way to shift our focus

  • Carla recounts how rubbish she felt the day before, dealing with some physical flare-ups

  • for a few hours she was stuck in it, then she noticed her dog Pedro was feeling bad with his tail between his legs

  • in that moment, as her focus shifted to her dog, who she loves to bits, her self-pity shifted and her suffering lifted even though the physical symptoms persisted

  • we begin to see that the extra suffering we heap onto life's events comes from the stories we make up and believe about the events

  • how much choice do we have about where we put our attention?

  • Juliet would have said there were times she could deliberately put her attention here or there, and other times she couldn't help where her attention stays

  • Carla notices there are times when she can't move her attention away from her stories and other times she just doesn't want to move her attention

  • She wants to feel outraged or angry or mean! Such a great catch to see this!

  • Carla shares a story of working with a team in a company and helping them see how a shift in perspective around down months can release energy, enthusiasm, and fresh ideas. They were able to re-calibrate

  • when we find a more settled and secure place inside, when it gets stronger, you can look out at the world and see treasure and gifts in everything rather than when we look out from insecurity where we see everything and everyone as a potential threat

  • from that space of deeper equanimity, we get to see that how we feel doesn't matter as much as we thought

  • how we feel is always in flux, always changing

  • from a state of more spaciousness, we find we have what we need to navigate through life with all its challenges

  • sometimes, a restart or recalibration, like restarting the computer, may be all we need

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Episode 33: Boundaries | The How and Why (without angst)

In this episode, Juliet and I explore boundaries, a popular topic no doubt. How do they help? What are the pitfalls? What do we notice about clear boundaries in others? How we can get tripped up when setting or holding boundaries and what's up with that? Another juicy discussion to invite you to see something new.

Here’s what we explored:

  • Carla shares how for her, a trauma response can be to isolate, to stay away from anything that might trigger a trauma response

  • Carla shares she has a tendency to just say no automatically

  • and she can stay quiet about something she wants

  • but also she notices she can be very clear about what she wants

  • in some areas, her boundaries are very clear and help her feel safe

  • but staying in her little isolated world can be confining

  • sometimes women have more difficulty setting boundaries than men

  • Juliet, on the other hand, can often automatically say yes (especially with loved ones) even when it's not in her best interests

  • we notice when we have clarity, it comes from a deeper knowing, without all the analysis and pros and cons

  • an automatic yes or no can be about not wanting to disappoint ourselves or others

  • saying yes or no for the wrong reasons can have negative ramifications

  • getting used to saying, "let me get back to you" can create a little space around making a decision, so we can let things settle and give clarity a chance to emerge

  • what happens when we set a boundary, we are clear about and then someone doesn't like the boundary and pushes against it?

  • Carla shares how she can get so caught up in the idea of people being mad at her

  • we can go to great lengths and get really bent out of shape, to try and avoid the discomfort of people being upset with us, not liking us

  • can we extend our imagination to the other side of feeling lousy and someone being upset with us?

  • in fact, people get upset. We get upset. Everyone gets upset now and then.

  • can we get comfortable with people being upset, mad, disappointed with us?

  • can we recognize that we like to catastrophize but in fact, these feelings roll in and roll out?

  • what if when we set strong boundaries, wonderful things could happen?

  • why not imagine a pleasant future?

  • interesting to look at what we are putting on it all, what's at stake?

  • when we think someone else's upset can truly and utterly and irrevocably disturb our peace of mind then it's logical to go to great lengths to avoid upset

  • when we realize that life has ups and downs whatever we do, we begin to see there is a deeper dimension to us that is unaffected by the ups and downs

  • when we reflect on where peace of mind truly comes from we can hold the issue of boundaries more lightly

  • and that clarity comes through to others

  • Carla talks about her friend, who's no longer with us, who had impeccable boundaries "I can't see you today; I'm reading today".

  • Although Carla felt disappointed she also knew when her friend did say yes, she knew her friend would be totally available for her.

  • from that clear place, Carla's friend set a great example for her

  • we can get caught in wanting to explain our position, and have others understand. We can go on and on and never get that understanding. We can get stuck there.

  • some great advice Carla was given: stop explaining, get clear on what you want, and move from that place

  • when we need others' understanding to validate our experience or our instincts we can get really lost looking for something that doesn't exist or matter because the only validation we need is from ourselves

  • our experience is valid simply because we are experiencing it

  • when we feel judged by others (and usually it is really being judged by ourself), we can get stuck and lose clarity

  • self-doubt adds layers and layers of thinking which causes so much more suffering

  • when we try to deal with self-doubt by battling, arguing, denying or suppressing, it doesn't really work. It doesn't go away

  • however as we tune into something deeper, those doubts get less compelling, easier to ignore because we realize that's not all there is

  • we invite listeners to just notice what's going on in your head, without judgment if you can. It puts a little distance between you and the experience

  • the culture (wider or our family culture) can seem to add layers of judgment so you come by your self-criticism innocently, you can have a lot of compassion for yourself

  • sometimes we get an epiphany and something like self-doubt can fall away in an instant; often it happens more incrementally. We notice those feelings are quieter, come up less often.

  • we can go on a wild goose chase looking into every possible cause of why we feel lousy: upbringing, genetics, work, relationships, money, diet, exercise. It can be a never-ending cycle of trying to improve

  • Juliet wonders if there isn't a way in which we enjoy that merry-go-round

  • drama in our lives can make us feel alive, even though it's horrible and painful

  • how honest are we willing to be with ourselves about our attachment to our habitual ways of thinking?

  • can we muse, wonder, get curious about that?

  • Juliet talks about hating the idea of a dull life when she was younger

  • nowadays Juliet experiences a very different kind of quiet joy which may have been there in moments but good times tended to be very adrenalin-fuelled

  • if our identity is tied up around the negative drama, it can feel very threatening to the ego to dismantle that

  • for Carla, she had a desperately dramatic internal life

  • she feels like she gave up the drama and decided she wasn't going to have the highs and lows but chose instead a place of numbing out or shutting down

  • now for the third time, Carla feels like she is reinventing herself

  • for the years Carla went to neutral, she feels she needed that to calm down a very jacked up nervous system

  • Juliet suggested maybe it is the pendulum swing from hyper-activated to numbed out and now Carla may be discovering a place of more equilibrium somewhere in between

  • when there is so much on what we feel, we can get very tangled, confused, and busy with meaning, stories, judgment, and opinions

  • when we touch something deeper, constant, unaffected by our changing feelings, we start to experience life more unfiltered, which gives an unimaginable richness to everyday life

  • co-creating with this lifeforce coursing through us, that is the path

  • it's not about figuring all this out

  • our getting clear around boundaries is such a gift to others, as well as ourselves

  • as the system settles down, it gets clearer and easier to set and hold to boundaries

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